Tuesday, April 25, 2017

Course I'm respectable

Course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough. -Noah Cross in Chinatown

 This post is based on an excellent RIYL podcast interview with artist, Josh Bayer by Brian Heater: 

RIYL - Episode #213 Josh Bayer 

Josh Bayer went to art school in the late 80's. His art teachers were part of the 70's abstract expressionist scene. Consequently, his education did not focus on techniques or fundamentals. He jokingly compares his schooling to the Art School Confidential Movie:



Making Crudity Work

While Josh would have liked to have had a more traditional art education, he does say crudity can and does work for certain artists. Art that is not interested in traditional anatomy or volumes. Art that is flat.

He mentions Laura Owens as an example of one such artist.


Another artist he mentions for his crude flat style is Michael DeForge:


Back to Black

Josh also mentions two other artists that went in a different direction. In this case, they hated traditional superheros and the direction that traditional comics had been headed. Instead, they focused on a heavy pen and ink style:

One of these artists is Charles Burns:



the other artist that he mentions is Gary Panter:


Crumb Contemporaries & Acolytes

Frank Stack




Paul Mavrides




Classic but Unfashionable

Josh mentions Ethan Van Sciver as an artist with a classic but, currently, unfashionable style:



Newspaper Style

Josh list many artists, who worked in what he termed as an expressionistic newspaper style. This is a style that he jokes using the China Town quote from the top of blog that is so old that it has finally become respectable.

Herb Trimpe



Al Milgrom



Tom Morgan



Sal Buscema


Milton Caniff


A Day In the Life

Josh mentions that George Orwell had a weekly newspaper column call, As I please, where he could write about whatever struck his fancy:

wikipedia.org - As I Please

Here are some artists whose comics follow this style by illustrating their lives and going in whatever direction their lives take;

Noah Van Sciver



Laura Weinstein




Back to the Basics

Josh eventually returned to school, the School of Visual Arts in NYC, to focus on the basics that he missed learning during his first go at school.

School of Visual Arts - NYC

He studied figure drawing under Phil Jimenez:


What drew him to the school was being able to learn from Thomas Hart


Comic Art Skill Set

According to Josh, many art schools skip on the fundamentals required to be a good comic artist. Comic artistry requires many fundamentals:

Understanding of ground lines
Knowledge of anatomy
Lettering
Inking
Emanota

...but the key skill that is often over looked is time management. Comic book artists need to put all these things together and get their work out quick and often dirty.

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