Course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough. -Noah Cross in Chinatown
This post is based on an excellent RIYL podcast interview with artist, Josh Bayer by Brian Heater:
RIYL - Episode #213 Josh Bayer
Josh Bayer went to art school in the late 80's. His art teachers were part of the 70's abstract expressionist scene. Consequently, his education did not focus on techniques or fundamentals. He jokingly compares his schooling to the Art School Confidential Movie:
Making Crudity Work
While Josh would have liked to have had a more traditional art education, he does say crudity can and does work for certain artists. Art that is not interested in traditional anatomy or volumes. Art that is flat.
He mentions Laura Owens as an example of one such artist.
Another artist he mentions for his crude flat style is Michael DeForge:
Back to Black
Josh also mentions two other artists that went in a different direction. In this case, they hated traditional superheros and the direction that traditional comics had been headed. Instead, they focused on a heavy pen and ink style:
One of these artists is Charles Burns:
the other artist that he mentions is Gary Panter:
Crumb Contemporaries & Acolytes
Classic but Unfashionable
Josh mentions Ethan Van Sciver as an artist with a classic but, currently, unfashionable style:
Josh list many artists, who worked in what he termed as an expressionistic newspaper style. This is a style that he jokes using the China Town quote from the top of blog that is so old that it has finally become respectable.
A Day In the Life
Josh mentions that George Orwell had a weekly newspaper column call, As I please, where he could write about whatever struck his fancy:
wikipedia.org - As I Please
Here are some artists whose comics follow this style by illustrating their lives and going in whatever direction their lives take;
Noah Van Sciver
Back to the Basics
Josh eventually returned to school, the School of Visual Arts in NYC, to focus on the basics that he missed learning during his first go at school.
School of Visual Arts - NYC
He studied figure drawing under Phil Jimenez:
What drew him to the school was being able to learn from Thomas Hart
Comic Art Skill Set
According to Josh, many art schools skip on the fundamentals required to be a good comic artist. Comic artistry requires many fundamentals:
Understanding of ground lines
Knowledge of anatomy
...but the key skill that is often over looked is time management. Comic book artists need to put all these things together and get their work out quick and often dirty.