Thursday, March 22, 2018

Universal Frequencies

This post review the Under the Skin Podcast  #46, Power vs Kindness (with Jordan Peterson):

According to Jordan Peterson, some very smart clinical psychologist in the 29th century made huge leaps in learning how one should put their life together in a manner that would decrease anxiety and depression, a way of life that would:

  • Orient a person to be more effective in ones communications.
  • Put the focus on a long term life plan.
  • Allow better interpretation of one's dreams particularly in relation to myths and archetypes
  • and position oneself properly in the world.

20th Century Psychological Revolution

He lists Freud, Jung, Carl Adler, Carl Rogers and Abraham Maslow as the most influential of these. He also credits the existential psychologists of the 1950's and humanists of the 1960's for furthering this work. In Peterson's estimation, there were roughly a dozen or so geniuses who laid the groundwork for developing psychotherapy and psychotherapeutic conversations.

Myths and Archetypes

Much of the basis of this work is based on ancient mythology and the archetypes that underlie it. Mythologies supply mankind with a common language. Humans view the world through and communicate by stories. They are the patterns that we use to explain our lives.


  1. a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter.

Jordan Peterson points out that these universal stories can be organized into genres that were classified by the ancient Greeks:

Comedy - The modern definition of comedy has a much different meaning than the ancient one. To classical Greeks, a comedy was simply a story with a happy ending, a story where everything turns out the way we want.

Tragedy - A tragedy, on the other hand, is a story where everything falls apart.

Other genres include adventure and romance stories.

Carl Jung was the deepest analyzer of deepest structure of stories

Another good source it the Romanian,  Mircea Eliade, who analyzed religious stories

A Universal Language

Humans have languages and Noam Chomsky recognized that all languages have commonalities. Jung recognized that, just like we have commonalities of languages, we also have universal myths.

According to Jordan Peterson, religion is a collection of stories that are grammatically sound in terms of the patterns that human recognize and respond to.

Jung theories were solidified while wrestling with his own personal demons the visions he experience were recorded in his seminal Red Book which has only been recently published. Much of Jung's self therapy involved art and painting and centered on the creation of Mandalas which represented ones personality and its relationship to the cosmos.

Badly Fragmented People

Jordan Peterson points out that disturbed individuals with badly fragmented personalities will produce disordered spontaneous drawings.

A Universal Frequency

In contrast, whole people will produce ordered, symmetrical mandalas, which Jung described as manifestations of spontaneous order.

Jordan Peterson also posits that Gothic cathedrals with their stain glass windows also represent this harmony or universal frequency.

Oneness with God

This universal oneness or truth is represented in the wholeness of god. According to Peterson, the archetype of self and god same, Christ symbol of self

The Christ story ultimate tragedy of the worst possible thing happening to the best person. In one sense it is a tragedy but a comedy too because the resurrection gives it a happy ending. The resurrection represents that part of people that is the self that is capable of sustaining itself across deaths and rebirths. It also represents how we move through life with dream and these dreams get shattered. This often plunged people into darkness but we then tend to get profound insights that we use to rebuild ourselves.

Ways of Understanding

Learning means understanding you are wrong and transforming. Their are different ways that people comprehend things:

Ideologues - The Ideologue identifies with what they understand.

Truth Seekers - Truth seekers identify with what they do not understand

Nihilists - Nihilists identify with chaos.

Creatives - Creative types are think laterally across ideas. They are open to divergent thinking. While this is good for creativity, it makes it harder to center on a core identity.

Ideally, a healthy individual can identify with movement between states but also understands that they also have constant core.

Mankind is Unscientific

In modern times, there is an apparent conflict between science and religion. According to Peterson, the world is one thing so, ultimately, true conflicts are not possible because everything is unified.

For most of human history, there was no science. The scientific method only came about 500 years ago. Scientific truth deal with the material world.

Religious truth is centered on the spiritual. It is a collection of metaphysical stories outlining how we should act. It is not scientific so

What people say and what they do have no correlation. We explain with our left brain and take action with the right and these two sides do not communicate. We are good at explaining our actions but these explanations are made up after the fact.

Case in point, modern people say the world is made up of things but act as if the world is made of potential.

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